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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made an objective error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (N.1257) ?

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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made an objective error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (N.1257) ?

Post  Lionel Andrades on Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:58 am



August 28, 2014

CARDINAL JOSEPH RATZINGER MADE AN OBJECTIVE ERROR IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (N.1257)

Why did Cardinal Ratzinger say in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC) 1257, ' God is not limited to the Sacraments' ?. Does he know of any exception?

A non Catholic can be saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ( followed by the baptism of water), hypothetically, but we do not know any explicit exception to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.Does he assume that these cases are visible in the flesh? This is a mistake.He is implying that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church.Really? Can he name someone in the present times?
 
IN THEORY YES. DE FACTO NO.

Baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are accepted theoretically (followed by the baptism of water) but when it is considered an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus it's an objective mistake.It is inferring that the deceased now saved are visible to us.This is the error of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

The Letter has been referenced by Cardinal Ratzinger in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, as if it is a magisterial document.The Letter did not have the approval of the Secretary of the Holy Office and was not placed in the Acta Apostolica Sedis. Cardinal Ratzinger's friend, Fr. Karl Rahner S.J placed the Letter of the Holy Office in the Denzinger, using the reference of an American magazine!

FACTUAL MISTAKE IN THE LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949

The magisterium has made a factual mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office when it assumes that there are cases in Heaven who are visible exceptions to the literal and traditional interpretation of the dogma on salvation by Fr.Leonard Feeney.This error has been carried over into the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257,' God is not restricted to the Sacraments'.

For centuries the Church guided by the  Holy Spirit taught that God is restricted to the Sacraments with reference to salvation, and outside the Church there is no salvation.

CUSHINGISM: A BREAK WITH THE DOGMA

This Cushingite virus 1 in the Catechism (1257) is the foundational error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and is responsible for the rupture with the past.It is a clear break with the dogma, because of the false  visible dead premise used.

Being saved  with ' a ray of the Truth' (NA 2), seeds of the Word (AG 11), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), etc. refer to visible in the flesh cases for Pope Benedict XVI. So Vatican council II is a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is irrationality and is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit.

This is a falsehood and is not part of the Deposit of the Faith.

NO TRADITIONAL REFERENCE

Aside from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 no pope, saint or magisterial document infers that the baptism of desire is visible to us in particular cases.They do not say that it is a known exception to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So there was no traditional source for the irrational inference in the Catechism (1257).

It is because of the false premise( visible-dead theory) that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, as Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith made the mistake. He  said  'God is not limited to the Sacraments'.

FACTUAL ERROR IN THE CATECHISM
De facto, we know there are no exceptions.So God is limited to the Sacraments.
De jure ( in principle) we know there are no exceptions mentioned in the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So even in principle, God is  limited to the Sacraments.
There is a factual error in the Catechism.It is a fact of life that we cannot see the deceased in Heaven.
There are no objective exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.So objectively this is a mistake.

Tradition-wise it is an error.Since no Church document says there are known exceptions (this has to be wrongly inferred) and no text mentions that defacto, in real life,  someone does not need to convert with 'faith and baptism'.

According to the magisterium of the Catholic Church, all need to convert for salvation.This is the de fide teaching of three defined dogmas on extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So CCC 1257 is heresy. It is the Cushingite heresy.

CONTRADICTS NICENE CREED
It is a first class heresy in Pope John Paul's hierarchy of truths.Since it changes the meaning of the Nicene Creed. We pray,'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin( one known baptism, the baptism of water). This has now been changed by CCC 1257 to'I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sin'( water, desire and blood). This is false.Since the baptism of desire is known only to God, it cannot be administered. Only God can judge who is a martyr.These cases in Heaven are not visible to us  so they cannot be known baptisms.2

INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ERROR
It is with this Cushingite error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church that Pope Benedict XVI wanted the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) to accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

This error is the theological basis for the new ecclesiology.Those who offer the Traditional Latin Mass have to accept Vatican Council II  and the Catechism with this irrationality leading to a new ecclesiology.This error is the basis for a theology of religions being taught at Catholic universities  and seminaries.So according to the theology of religions other religions are paths to salvation. According to this heresy one one can be saved in another religion and these cases would be visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is the reasoning  that Pope Benedict accepted in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican. 3

FRANCICAN FRIARS OF THE IMMACULATE

Since there is alleged salvation oustide the Church ( because of the visible-dead premise) Pope Francis proclaimed a kergyma without the necessity of entering the Catholic Chruch. He also expects the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) 4 to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, using this Cushingite irrationality.This is a condiiton for their being able to offer the Traditional Latin Mass and have their teaching faculties restored. The former seminarians of the FFI have to attend theology and philosphy classes at the pontifical universities in Rome  where this error is common.

CONTRADICTS ST.AUGUSTINE

It is with this irrational inference that Catholics have to interpret Dominus Iesus, Redemptoris Missio and other magisterial documents.Similarly in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257 must contradict 1258,1259,1260.This is a major error in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican
Council II.It is a contradiction of the teachings of St.Augustine whose feast we celebrate today.


VI. THE NECESSITY OF BAPTISM 1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.60 He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.61 Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.62 The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament. 1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament. 1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."63 Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

CCC 1257 also uses double speak 'God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.' Cornelia Ferrara explains this well at the Fatima Peace Conference held last year. The video is titled World Revolution and Diabolical Disorientation and on the need to consecrate Russia to Our Lady of Fatima.http://youtu.be/32797bhXk4w

EXAMPLES OF FALSE PREMISE:  5
1.
CCC 1257 states ' Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.'
False Premise: Baptism is necessary for salvation for only those who know.We humans know and can judge who knows and who does not know and so will be saved or not saved.
False conclusion: All do not need to enter the Church with the baptism of water but only those who know.

The dogma instead says all need to enter the Church. The dogma does not mention any exceptions.With the irrationality added on we have exceptions.

2.
1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament.

False Premise: This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament and these cases are visible to us in the present times.
False conclusion:This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament since there is known salvation outside the Church and these cases do not need to receive the baptism of water for salvation. They are de facto  exceptions.
3.
1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament.
False Premise:For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament. These cases are visible in the flesh for us humans. We personally  know and can see these people in the present times(2014).
False conclusion:Since these cases are personally known to us they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.So every one does not need to convert into the Catholic Church. The thrice defined dogma has been superseded by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
4.
1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."63 Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity
False Premise: Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity' and these are not invisible for us cases but visible in the flesh people whom we personally know.
False conclusion:So every one does not need to be a de facto member of the Catholic Church for salvation.There are exceptions to John 3:5  and Mark 16:16.
This is the absurdity which Catholics have to accept! Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church contradict themself. LG 16 contradicts AG 7 and LG 14 and CCC 1257 contradicts 1258 etc.AThis is only because of the use of an irrational premise.

Vaican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church can be interpreted without  the irrational premise and both these magisterial documents will be traditional and rational.
-Lionel Andrades


References from Eucharist and Mission
1.

Until today there is no apology issued from the Vatican or the Jesuits
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/until-today-there-is-no-apology-issued.html#links


Cushingism is the name of the error that is professed. The error of believing there are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus- Cantarella, CathInfo forum
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/cushingism-is-name-of-error-that-is.html#links

Catholic Religious contradict most Catholic priests and nuns : Nostra Aetate is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/catholic-religious-contradict-most.html#links


Even if a non Catholic was saved in his religion or by his religion the case is implicit for us: Bishop Fellay uses the right hand column
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/even-if-non-catholic-was-saved-in-his.html#links


2.
SSPX IS CONTRADICTING THE NICENE CREED : THEY BELIEVE IN TWO OR MORE 'KNOWN' BAPTISMS FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SIN
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/sspx-is-contradicting-nicene-creed-they.html#links


FR.LEONARD FEENEY RECITED THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE EXCOMMUNICATION WAS LIFTED
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/09/frleonard-feeney-recited-athanasius.html#links


PRESIDENT OF CATHOLIC CULTURE DENIES THE NICENE CREED
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/09/president-of-catholic-culture-denies.html#links

3.
The International Theological Commission,Vatican is using the irrational column
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/the-international-theological.html#links

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J and Pope Benedict XVI made a factual error : Analysis
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-and-pope.html#links

Popes approved a factual error and so Vatican Council II is a break with the past
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/popes-approved-factual-error-and-so.html#links
 
 
The International Theological Commission,Vatican is using the irrational column
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/the-international-theological.html#links

4.

Fr.Angelo Geiger FFI is making the same error as Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the crypto Lefebvrists
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frangelo-geiger-ffi-is-making-same.html#links
 

ASK FR.VOLPI IF CATHOLICS CAN ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II WITHOUT THE FALSE PREMISE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/ask-frvolpi-if-catholics-can-accept.html#links

Fr.Fidenzio Volpi, Fr.Alfono Bruno given mandatum to teach FFI seminarians an irrationality
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frfidenzio-volpi-fralfono-bruno-given.html#links
 

5.

There cannot be a continuity with the past in Vatican Council II if a false premise is used in the interpretation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/there-cannot-be-continuity-with-past-in.html#links

Without the false premise, the visible- dead premise, the Decree on Ecumenism in Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/without-false-premise-visible-dead.html#links

Prof.Roberto de Mattei and the false premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/profroberto-de-mattei-and-false-premise.html#links

I do not use an irrational inference, a false premise, so there is no discontinuity between Vatican II and Tradition http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/i-do-not-use-irrational-inference-false.html

There can be a Vatican Council II according to a leftist or 'right wing' ideology : it depends upon the premise http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/there-can-be-vatican-council-ii.html#links

Fr.Fidenzio Volpi OFM cap.,is forcing the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept an irrational premise with Vatican Council II : 'Socrates is a cat'
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frfidenzio-volpi-ofm-capis-forcing.html#links

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