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Fr.Robert Barron in Catholicism uses an irrational proposition to reach an irrational conclusion

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Fr.Robert Barron in Catholicism uses an irrational proposition to reach an irrational conclusion

Post  Lionel Andrades on Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:49 am




Fr.Robert Barron in Catholicism uses an irrational proposition to reach an irrational conclusion

Fr.Robert Barron in Catholicism ( p.119) suggests non Catholics in general can be saved and this is his interpretation of Vatican Council II. He comes to this conclusion by assuming the following, of which we must be aware.This is his inference.

1. The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 was correct and Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong. The strict interpretation of the dogma is contradicted by cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.

2.Those who are saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire were explicit exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma ( even though they are in heaven and not on earth).

3.So since there are exceptions to the dogma we now accept that a non Catholic can be saved in his religion outside the Church. He does not need to be a formal member of the Catholic Church to go to Heaven.

4.If there can be one such case there can be many.

5.So it is possible that most people, most non Catholics will be saved. They will be saved through Jesus and the Church. They will be saved in general and without having to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism' (Ad Gentes 7).


So Fr.Robert Barron concludes elsewhere as Michael Voris often quotes him as saying, we have a reasonable hope that all men will be saved.

This is the theology which was accepted by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, later Pope Benedict XVI.This is magisterial. So Michael Voris is not expected to touch it.

The weak link in this common chain of reasoning, is inferring that those saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are personally known to us,  objectively seen in the flesh.Explicit  in the present times.This is a false premise to reason with.

It with this irrational proposition that we have the irrational conclusion of Fr.Robert Barron.

It is theology , a new theology, based on an irrational premise which creates a non traditional, new doctrine on salvation, which has been accepted by the magisterium
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-Lionel Andrades

Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict also used the false premise and conclusion from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/pope-john-paul-ii-and-pope-benedict.html

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