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Pope Benedict XVI Encourages Catholics to Focus on Doctrine
VATICAN CITY, Jan. 27 (UPI) -- Pope Benedict XVI said Friday at the Vatican the world faces a crisis of faith and warned against indifference to doctrine in the name of religious unity.
"Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance," the spiritual leader of the world's Roman Catholics said Friday at a meeting of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Irenism was an ideology conceived by Dutch theologian Erasmus that sought to mediate differences between Protestants and Catholics, the Italian news agency ANSA said.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/01/27/Pope-warns-Catholics-to-hold-to-doctrine/UPI-62381327700909/#ixzz1kihInKM8
"Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance," the spiritual leader of the world's Roman Catholics said Friday at a meeting of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Irenism was an ideology conceived by Dutch theologian Erasmus that sought to mediate differences between Protestants and Catholics, the Italian news agency ANSA said.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/01/27/Pope-warns-Catholics-to-hold-to-doctrine/UPI-62381327700909/#ixzz1kihInKM8
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So there we have it, in the Pope's own words , "Crisis of Faith and indifference to Doctrine" as if many thought that radicals created the Church Crisis as a figment of their imagination and hysteria. This was and is the problem in the Church as the Pope warns us.
Charity can only go so far and there comes a time to reduce the size of the grey area so that the black and white become clearer. There is an eternity of damage that has been done to many souls like the elderly lady in the hospital who told me that since Vatican II, we do not have to worry about Purgatory anymore. Most people do not know the basics of their Catholic Faith and there is accountability.
I beg you, Sedevacanist to come home and pray for Our Pope from within the church.
JMJ,
George
Charity can only go so far and there comes a time to reduce the size of the grey area so that the black and white become clearer. There is an eternity of damage that has been done to many souls like the elderly lady in the hospital who told me that since Vatican II, we do not have to worry about Purgatory anymore. Most people do not know the basics of their Catholic Faith and there is accountability.
I beg you, Sedevacanist to come home and pray for Our Pope from within the church.
JMJ,
George
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Does the Pope wish us to focus on the doctrine "Outside the Church there is no Salvation?" I say this in consideraton of he context. But somehow I think it would put a damper on eccumimism which the Pope would not be in favor of.
Hmmm.. Re the highlighted words.
The Pope is confidently asserting something that the facts don't seem to agree with.
"Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance,"
Hmmm.. Re the highlighted words.
The Pope is confidently asserting something that the facts don't seem to agree with.
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columba wrote:Does the Pope wish us to focus on the doctrine "Outside the Church there is no Salvation?" I say this in consideraton of he context. But somehow I think it would put a damper on eccumimism which the Pope would not be in favor of."Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance,"
Hmmm.. Re the highlighted words.
The Pope is confidently asserting something that the facts don't seem to agree with.
There's ecumenism and there's false irenicism. They're not the same thing.
Good Ecumenism is good and false ecumenism is bad.
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otremer6 wrote:columba wrote:Does the Pope wish us to focus on the doctrine "Outside the Church there is no Salvation?" I say this in consideraton of he context. But somehow I think it would put a damper on eccumimism which the Pope would not be in favor of."Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance,"
Hmmm.. Re the highlighted words.
The Pope is confidently asserting something that the facts don't seem to agree with.
There's ecumenism and there's false irenicism. They're not the same thing.
Good Ecumenism is good and false ecumenism is bad.
Yes i'm aware of the difference but was this false eccuminism far from the minds of the main contributors to Vat council 2?
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columba wrote:otremer6 wrote:columba wrote:Does the Pope wish us to focus on the doctrine "Outside the Church there is no Salvation?" I say this in consideraton of he context. But somehow I think it would put a damper on eccumimism which the Pope would not be in favor of."Today we see a number of good results caused by ecumenical dialogue, but we must also recognize that the risk of a false Irenism and indifference, quite alien to the mind of Vatican II, demands our vigilance,"
Hmmm.. Re the highlighted words.
The Pope is confidently asserting something that the facts don't seem to agree with.
There's ecumenism and there's false irenicism. They're not the same thing.
Good Ecumenism is good and false ecumenism is bad.
Yes i'm aware of the difference but was this false eccuminism far from the minds of the main contributors to Vat council 2?
Most of the Council Fathers were either moderates or conservatives and probably never imagined what would happen after the Council in their name.
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