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Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

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Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  In Spiration on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:53 pm

Just in case anyone on this forum is still unaware*, there's a recent online petition encouraging Pope Benedict XVI to celebrate a public Mass in the Extraordinary Form. At 2,211 signatures worldwide, it currently stands in need of only 289 more supporters to meet its goal, so anyone who hasn't yet added to it probably should do so soon.

Ottavio Demasi, the Brazilian attorney apparently behind it all, recently issued via email the following update:
Dear Supporters,

I was in Rome from Oct 1st to Oct 8th. I had meetings with important
prelates, but I was unable to obtain a bacciamano invitation to give
the petition to the Holy Father. I was received by a pro-TLM prelate and
had a meeting in the Papal Household Prefecture. Although I could not give the petition to the Holy Father myself, he agreed to make the petition be delivered
in the hands of the Holy Father. Please, I ask you to promote the petition
because of this good news.
In Oct 19 it is printed and posted. Regardless of it, the petition (supplica) in canonic law terms, will be opened to receive signatures. Thanks,
Demasi
Hence this reminder. And so, finally, without further ado, here is a link to the petition.

*I'm new to this site and thus not sure whether most of you have received word about this already or not, but then a little extra advocacy hardly ever amounts to anything beyond a mild annoyance, therefore we're faced with a risk I'm clearly willing to take. Of course, in the event that everyone's simply reviewing old news at the moment, in light of my currently wasting your valuable time with but another campaign toward that generally-despicable, and rather notoriously-Leftist, goal of "raising awareness," please still accept from yours truly this most insincere quasi-apology of sorts. Thanks. That is all. (Seriously, if you're still reading this, then, wow, you have to be pretty bored at the moment and I really couldn't have stolen that much time from you anyway. And, oh yeah, why aren't you signing or promoting the petition yet? Never mind answering; just... go now. C'mon. DO it.)
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  Jehanne on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:58 pm

Link is missing and/or broken.

Sorry.
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  George Brenner on Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:21 pm

Pope Benedict XVI Faces Challenge In Trying To Resurrect Latin
Religion News Service | By Alessandro Speciale
Posted: 11/15/2012 9:14 am EST




VATICAN CITY (RNS) Reviving a long-dead language might sound like a tall order for a church that's already weakened by
"VATICAN CITY (RNS) Reviving a long-dead language might sound like a tall order for a church that's already weakened by widespread secularization and the fallout from decades of a painful child abuse scandal.

But Pope Benedict XVI seems convinced that revitalizing the study and use of Latin among priests and seminarians is a necessary step for the church's future.

On Saturday (Nov. 10), Benedict established a "Pontifical Academy of Latinity" tasked with "promoting the use of Latin" inside and outside the Catholic Church.

Ever since its earliest days, the church "has spoken and prayed in all the languages of humanity," the pope wrote in the letter announcing the creation of the new Vatican department.

But, he added, the church "has assiduously promoted the knowledge and diffusion" of Latin throughout the centuries, singling it out as "its own language, capable of universally transmitting the message of the gospel."

In fact, even as the Second Vatican Council of the 1960s authorized the translation of Mass and other church rites into local languages, Latin remains the official language of the church. The official version of papal documents and Catholic liturgical texts is still the Latin one, and cash machines inside the Vatican Bank still greet customers in the language of ancient Rome.

For Benedict, knowledge of Latin language and culture is "necessary" for those who want to study theology, liturgy or canon law. But among today's priests and seminarians the study of Latin is "more and more superficial," he denounced.





Benedict's push isn't just about being able to read the founding texts of the church's history and doctrine in their original versions, said the Rev. Roberto Spataro, the secretary of the newly founded Academy.

He is convinced that a perceived crisis in Catholic theology is in part consequence of abandoning a thorough study of Latin.

"Ever since the knowledge of Latin got weaker among theologians, in the last 50 years, theologians have become more and more verbose. They can go on for pages and pages without actually saying anything, or even contradicting themselves," he said.

According to the scholar, studying the language of Cicero leads to a "discipline and a clarity of thought that is indispensable for theological reflection and liturgy."

He added that the church will not risk appearing anachronistic by pushing for a resurrection of Latin. "The church has always defended culture, every culture, throughout history. Why should it renounce tapping the vast heritage of Latin wisdom?," he asks...."







In Spiration,



I did sign the petition. The link works fine. Thank you



and so we pray,



JMJ



George




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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  Jehanne on Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:51 pm

Maybe it's just me, but I tried viewing this message thread using Opera, Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Safari, and none of those browsers displayed the link. (I am running Windows Vista.) I did a "source" command in Opera and could not find it there either. Perhaps someone could just repost it and I will sign it as soon as it appears.
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  George Brenner on Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:38 pm

Hi Jehanne,


Hope this helps:
Dear George,

Thanks for signing Ottavio's petition "To the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI: Petition (Supplica) to Celebrate a Public Mass According with the 1962 Missal."

Can you help this petition win by asking your friends to sign too? It's easy to share with your friends on Facebook - just click here to share the petition on Facebook.

There's also a sample email below that you can forward to your friends.

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Note to forward to your friends:



I just signed the petition "To the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI: Petition (Supplica) to Celebrate a Public Mass According with the 1962 Missal." on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/petitions/to-the-holy-father-pope-benedict-xvi-petition-supplica-to-celebrate-a-public-mass-according-with-the-1962-missal

Thanks!

George






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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  Jehanne on Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:43 pm

That one works! Thank you!!
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  tornpage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:23 pm

I had the same problem as Jehanne . . . thanks.

Good news about the pope and Latin.
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  Jehanne on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:27 pm

The ghost of Rasha lurketh! And, yes, Mark, now we all know where you live! And just wait until Mike sees that comment!!
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  tornpage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:03 pm

Jehanne,

I think Mike might very well agree with me. Very Happy

Mark
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  columba on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:05 pm

tornpage wrote:

Good news about the pope and Latin.

I don't know about that Mark.
Latin for Latin's sake and without a return to traditional theolgy could create even more confussion. No mention of Latin being the consecrated language of the Church and as such being the only worthy language for the Church's liturgy.

The use of Latin in Cash Machines within the Vatican could do more to profane this consecrated language than encourage respect for it. There's much more to Latin than simply being the common language of the Church.
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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  tornpage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:10 pm

I don't know about that Mark.

I do.

Latin with a return to the old theology is better. But Latin by itself is good. No downside.

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Re: Petition for Pope Benedict XVI to offer TLM

Post  tornpage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:12 pm

The use of Latin in Cash Machines within the Vatican could do more to profane this consecrated language than encourage respect for it.

They already have that and have had that. This "change" has nothing to do with that.
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