Bishop Athanasius Schneider makes the same error as John Vennari,Louie Verrecchio

Lionel Andrades Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:13 pm

NOVEMBER 8, 2014

Bishop Athanasius Schneider makes the same error as John Vennari and Louie Verrecchio

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Crying heresy – Bishop Athanasius cries even worse than this
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Lionel:
Bishop Athanasius Schneider makes the same error as John Vennari and Louie Verrecchio in the video above.
Bishop Schneider has called for a Syllabus of Errors on Vatican Council II.He is not aware that there can be two ways of interpreting UR 3, for example, and the rest of Vatican Council II.
He assumes UR 3 refers to known cases in the present times who are a break with Tradition.The visible- dead.
For me UR 3 refers to a possibility known only to God.It is a hypothethical case. So it is not an exception to Tradition ( extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Catechism of Pope Pius X etc).
He uses an irrational premise, as do John Vennari and Louie Verrechio, in the interpretation of UR 3 ( and also NA 2,LG 16, LG 8 etc).
I do not add a premise in the interpretation of UR 3, NA 2, LG 16,LG 8 etc.
So for me Vatican Council II is not a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities.
Bishop Schneider’s interpretation of Vatican Council II is heretical, non traditional and irrational. He is not aware that the premise he uses , comes from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which is responsible for all this confusion.
According to Ad Gentes 7 all need ‘faith and baptism’ for salvation.All signifies there are no know exceptions in 2014. There are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II. LG 16,UR 3 cannot be an exception since humanly we cannot see people who are now in Heaven.
Ad Gentes 7 is saying all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics are on the way to Hell since they do not have Catholic Faith and the baptism of water. It is saying that the Prophet Mohammad needed faith and baptism for salvation.He did not have it.
If liberals wrongly say that only those who know about Jesus and the Church and yet do not enter are damned (LG 14) (and imply that we can know these cases in 2014 for them to be exceptions) then it must be noted that the Quran indicates that the Prophet Mohammed knew about Jesus and the Church and yet chose to found another religion.In this religion they take his name when they pray and circle a big stone believing their sins are forgiven.
Ad Gentes 7 indicates, all the members of the B’Nai Brith are on the way to Hell without faith and baptism. They are educated and are aware of Jesus and the Church and yet do not enter.
Most people do not have faith and baptism at the time of death. Jesus says the way to Heaven is narrow and the way to Hell is wide and most people take it. Most people die without the baptism of water( John 3:5, Mk.16:16), without the Sacrament of Confession and with mortal sin on their soul.
This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II and after Vatican Council II and it is not just a personal opinion. I am quoting you Church text in Vatican Council II which affirms Tradition and which is still ignored by Bishop Athanasius Schnieder, John Vennari and Louie Verrecchio.-Lionel Andrades

http://www.harvestingthefruit.com/fcchicago/#comment-27038

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No one from the SSPX to defend John Vennari and Louie Verrecchio
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/no-one-from-sspx-to-defend-john-vennari.html

Cardinal Kaspar,John Vennari and Louie Verrecchio make the Council ambigous

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/bishop-athanasius-schneider-makes-same.html

John Vennari, Louie Verrecchio repeat the same error
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/john-vennari-louie-verrecchio-repeat.html