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Post  otremer6 Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:34 pm

Amazing... to dismiss the Fathers so blithely for no good reason is fairly typical of a certain type of person...

The Fathers of the Church generally took that parable to refer to both
God's call to be part of the chosen People, and to refer to final
salvation. That was unfortunate, for the two are quite different. One can
be saved without formally entering the Church, and some who do formally
enter will not be saved.

Are we obliged to accept the Patristic interpretation? No, for there is no
sign they are passing on a teaching from the beginning.
Except what's in the scriptures, taught by the Fathers and always believed in the Universal Church?] Rather, they are on their own, [You are on your own.] and telescope two things that greatly need to be kept distinct, as we said. [You introduce things that are problems from your limited and frankly modernist perspective.]

http://www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/elctnum.txt

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Post  Forum Janitor Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:45 pm

Who wrote that article on the EWTN site? I went to the link and it didn't have the author.
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Post  DeSelby Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:14 pm

Fr. Most?
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Post  otremer6 Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:38 pm

Forum Janitor wrote:Who wrote that article on the EWTN site? I went to the link and it didn't have the author.

We should have a poll and give a cash award of ten bucks to the person who correctly surmises the author's name from the staff of bigwhigs.

I'm guessing it's Fr. Pacwa

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Post  otremer6 Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:40 pm

DeSelby wrote:Fr. Most?

Fr. MOST was the WORST.

Yes, actually, I think you're write. This kind of primacy of emotion style befits him nicely. He's a Sillonist if ever there was one on American soil.

I still remember the outrage I felt reading this one thing he wrote about how he thought making everyone Catholic would have been too much of a medieval inconvenience.

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