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Gaudium et Spes

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Re: Gaudium et Spes

Post  columba on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:09 am

George,

I'm reading your posts and hopefully replying to them also when replying to Mike.
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Re: Gaudium et Spes

Post  George Brenner on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:02 pm

Columba,

Maybe this helps or perhaps not:

Wikipedia: Now one of the criminals hanging there reviled Jesus, saying, "Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us." 40 The other, however, rebuking him, said in reply, "Have you no fear of God, for you are subject to the same condemnation? 41 And indeed, we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal." 42 Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." 43 He replied to him, "Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." 23:39-43

So what if the good thief had not said these words out loud and they were only unspoken in the thoughts and heart of St. Dismas? Would he still be in Heaven? Of Course,( I believe, in my very very humble opinion) for Jesus would have known and acted on The unspoken in the exact same manner, Right?

Why would not the Sacrament of Baptism by Water have similarities as taught by the Church in the possibilities of Baptism of Desire?


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Re: Gaudium et Spes

Post  columba on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:16 pm

100% agree George.
St. Dismass' prayer I'm confident would have been efficacious whether vocal or silent.

Baptism however requires matter as well as form in order for it to be valid, not to mention a minister and proper intention.
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Post  RememberGethsemane on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:55 am

columba wrote:
RememberGethsemane wrote:I see your irish Columba, Im a scottish brit but spent most of my life in canada, back home in bonny scotland now. A great saint was Columba, I'm taking it thats ur screen name rather than your birth name. Any other Europeans in here you know about?

There's one other European here who goes by the screen name Simplefaith but hasn't posted in a while. He's Irish too and lives about 6 miles from me.

Yep, Columba was a great saint and that's why I use him as my screen name. My avatar though is St. Vincent Ferrer who's another of my favorite saints. He preached here in Ireland 600 years ago and preached in England too. I don't know if he got as far as your neck o' the woods, Scotland.

Hope you have a good hogmanay RG. Keep the kilt below knee length.


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Re: Gaudium et Spes

Post  RememberGethsemane on Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:12 am

RememberGethsemane wrote:
columba wrote:
RememberGethsemane wrote:I see your irish Columba, Im a scottish brit but spent most of my life in canada, back home in bonny scotland now. A great saint was Columba, I'm taking it thats ur screen name rather than your birth name. Any other Europeans in here you know about?

There's one other European here who goes by the screen name Simplefaith but hasn't posted in a while. He's Irish too and lives about 6 miles from me.

Yep, Columba was a great saint and that's why I use him as my screen name. My avatar though is St. Vincent Ferrer who's another of my favorite saints. He preached here in Ireland 600 years ago and preached in England too. I don't know if he got as far as your neck o' the woods, Scotland.

Hope you have a good hogmanay RG. Keep the kilt below knee length.

Sorry made a pigs arse trying to reply just now, I need to hire a tutor to use this website sometimes.. I said: Hogmanay here is just a disaster now, not like it used to be, lost it's communal theme and craic , just morons going nuts now .. bit like vatican 2 tbh lol Razz Never heard of St. Vincent gonna google him, I was on this website that had me absorbed: thepopeinred.com all about Pope Gregory XVII (Cardinal Siri) intriguing!


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