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Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell says founder of Franciscans of the Immaculate

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Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell says founder of Franciscans of the Immaculate

Post  Lionel Andrades on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:03 am

PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END
- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell and Christians today who follow him will meet the same end and those who do not submit themself to the pope and the teachings of the Catholic Church are also going to Hell.

Father Stefano Manelli F.I founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate writes that Martin Luther who called himself Pope Luther 1 and condemned the pope of Rome, as going to Hell, was a great heretic.

Fr.Manelli in Il Settimanale di Padre Pio (Jan.20,2013 p.1) said that Christians today who follow Luther are also on the path to Hell.

Fr.Manelli in the Italian weekly , mentioned that Padre Pio said those Christians who believe they can speak directly with God are also going to Hell.

Luther believed he could speak directly with God. He was precipitated into Hell said Padre Pio.

Fr.Stefano Manelli in his weekly column Il Pensiero di Padre Pio,Pianeta Padre Pio, wrote that Padre Pio criticized those Christians who believe they can speak directly to God and receive instructions and do not have to submit to the authority of the pope.

This is also a dangerous road, writes Fr.Manelli, for Christians who believe they are in communion with God without his Vicar and the Catholic Church. They are mistaken and this is an illusion for them,as it is known, he writes, outside the church there is no salvation.

On this point, Padre Pio, with simple words, which were terrible, said that those who believe they can communicate with God directly, are on the way to Hell.

Luther's end was horrible and frightening, he writes, but this will also be the same history of many Christians and Catholics who believe in the teachings of Luther.They risk also going to Hell like Luther, for not listening to the pope.

We need to understand the words of Jesus, in which he delegated St.Peter and his successors the guarantee of a unique Catholic Faith in the Church.(Lk.22,32).This is the guarantee and confirmation given to the popes which is secure and infallible and no one will be lost to Hell who remains with the pope in the Catholic Church.

'Thou art Peter,' said Jesus, ' and upon this rock I will build my Church,and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it' (Mt.16,18).

Fr.Stefano Manelli, who personally knew the saint, said Padre Pio had kept a picture of the pope on his little working table.So always before him was the message,'After Jesus comes the Pope'.(Dopo Gesù viene il papa).

Even we , suggests Fr.Manelli, should quickly free ourself from everything which is far from the pope and not supporting the pope.Even we should value the motto of Padre Pio, 'After Jesus comes the pope'.

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Re: Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell says founder of Franciscans of the Immaculate

Post  MRyan on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:00 am

Padre Pio would be the first to acknowledge that those who knowingly leave the true Church or refuse to enter the Church cannot be saved. He is also on record as confirming that there are souls in heaven who died as non-Catholics:

He assured the Catholic convert Mary Pyle, who renounced her family fortune in order to spend her life near Padre Pio, that her mother, Adelaide McAlpin Pyle, who died a devout Protestant (and had met Padre Pio), “will be saved because she has faith.” (Massa, Bonaventura, Mary Pyle, She Lived Doing Good to All, San Giovanni Rotondo, Our Lady of Grace Capuchin Friary, 1986.)

Padre Pio also confirmed (in writing) to the daughter of Julius Fine (an ubaptized devout Jew), that “Julius Fine is saved, but it is necessary to pray much for him.” (Fr. Alessio Parente, O.F.M. Cap., The Holy Souls, p. 151)

Both citations taken from (http://www.romancatholicism.org/pio-sedevacantist websites.htm).

Padre Pio would be the first to acknowledge the hope of salvation for infants who die without the sacrament of baptism, for he was always loyal to the Magisterium.

As such, even without his private revelation cited above, he would also be the first to acknowledge the following truths from the 2nd Vatican Council’s Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintegratio:

3. … Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ.

The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation.
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Re: Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell says founder of Franciscans of the Immaculate

Post  Lionel Andrades on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:56 am

Lionel:
Mary Pyle prayed for her relatives and her prayers had the attention of Padre Pio.
Of course salvation is open for Jews and Protestants and all people since Jesus died to save all.
However there are conditions for the Jew and the Protestant to be saved and they are mentioned in Cantate Domino. The need for conversion.
Those non Catholics who meet this condition can be saved.

Michael:
As such, even without his private revelation cited above, he would also be the first to acknowledge the following truths from the 2nd Vatican Council’s Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintegratio:

Lionel:
Yes.

3. … Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ.

The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation.


Yes. These are possibilities. We accept that Protestants can also be saved. Since they are possibilities known only to God they are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 which says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.Neither are they exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

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