The two popes, the cardinals and the traditionalists( the exception being the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St.Benedict Centers) do  not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus) quoted here.Since for them invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to the dogma Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus.