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Fr.John Zuhlsdorf condones Mass for suicide

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Fr.John Zuhlsdorf condones Mass for suicide

Post  Lionel L. Andrades on Tue May 19, 2015 9:18 am



According to Pope John Paul II's encylcical on morals Veritatis Splendor,  a mortal sin is a mortal sin and the outward action indicates the inner intention. Veritatis Splendor also criticized the Fundamental Option Theory.This does not seem to be important for Fr.John Zuhlsdorf who has to bow to his religious superiors and changes in church teaching and Canon Law.
Fr.John Zuhlsdorf agrees that suicide is a grave sine yet justifies Mass for a person who commits suicide. He also seems to support the Fundamental Option Theory.
He writes on his blog
: 'Someone who kills himself would be, objectively, a manifest grave sinner. However, we also have to consider the person’s active subjectively.  The Church recognizes that many people who commit suicide are in difficult psychological conditions, which might impact their freedom, and therefore their culpability.  While the act of suicide itself is a grave sin, the person might not have been fully guilty of a mortal sin because he did not have full use of will.'

Mass should not be held for a person how commits suicide but yet it is common.

Fr.Z also believes that being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is a rejection of the dogma.
Since priests reject the dogma, like Fr. Z, and assume there is known salvation outside the Church, they regularise marriages between Catholics and non Catholics, with a ceremony.The couple, for example Catholic and Muslim,  are not told that they are in mortal sin and living in adultery.The Muslim is not told that he needs to convert into the Church for salvation.
One such case is the blogger Louie Verrecchio whose wife is Jew and their marriage has been 'normalised'.Verrecchio also uses the liberal theology of the Catechism and assumes there is salvation outside the Church and so there are exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church.
-Lionel Andrades

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ASK FATHER: Funerals for those who commit suicide

Posted on 19 May 2015 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

A long time member at our parish committed suicide just the other week. He was heavily involved in the parish and loved by all. They had a funeral Mass said for him. Why are those souls who commit suicide now allowed to have funeral Masses and a Christian? This didn’t used to be permitted did it?

Canon 1184 is our guide here.
Funerals are to be denied to notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics, those who choose cremation for anti-Christian motives, and those manifest grave sinners whose funerals would be a cause for scandal among the faithful.

If there is any doubt, the judgment of the local Ordinary is to be sought and followed.

The former prohibition of funerals for suicides is no longer in force.

Someone who kills himself would be, objectively, a manifest grave sinner. However, we also have to consider the person’s active subjectively.  The Church recognizes that many people who commit suicide are in difficult psychological conditions, which might impact their freedom, and therefore their culpability.  While the act of suicide itself is a grave sin, the person might not have been fully guilty of a mortal sin because he did not have full use of will.

No matter what his soul should, most certainly, be prayed for.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/05/ask-father-funerals-for-those-who-commit-suicide/

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