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Two popes must ask all Catholics to affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) as they do

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Two popes must ask all Catholics to affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) as they do

Post  Lionel L. Andrades on Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:16 am

OCTOBER 30, 2017

Two popes must ask Franciscans, Domincians, Jesuits, Benedictines, Carmelites and other religious organisations and lay movements to affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) and then do it themselves

The two popes must ask the Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits, Carmelities and other religious communities to affirm Vatican Council II ( premise-free) and do it themselves.
The two popes need to ask the Franciscans, Benedictines and other religious communities, along with all lay movements, to interpret and affirm Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents without the invisible- people- are- visible- premise.

In this way we know that the two popes are affirming Catholic documents rationally and are not interpreting  them with an irrational philosophy and theology.They need to ask the religious communities, lay movements and all Catholic organizations,to announce that all non Catholics need to formally convert into the Catholic Church with faith and baptism (AG 7, LG 14)  and there are no known exceptions in the present times(2017).Invisible-for-us LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc cannot be exceptions.This is affirming Vatican Council II rationally. traditionally and non hermetically.Presently the religious communities, cardinals and bishops, and lay people in general are rejecting the Council by interpreting it as a rupture with Tradition(Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, Athanasius Creed etc), when it is not really a rupture when Vatican Council II ( premise-free)is used.

So Catholics can still be asked by Pope Francis to go to the peripheries and proclaim Jesus and the necessity of membership in the hierarchical Catholic Church of St.Ignatius of Loyola.All need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church as members since outside the Church there is no known salvation.Every one needs to be a Roman Catholic to avoid the fires of Hell.
Religious communities and lay Catholics on their own can affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.It has a continuity with the Syllabus of Errors and an ecumenism of return.

Presently it is heretical for Pope Francis and Pope Benedict to expect Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II with LG 16 etc referring to non hypothetical cases, people allegedly saved outside the Church, when no one knows of any such person.Also with this irrationality, Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with the missionaries and magisterium of the 16th century, for example.
With hypothetical cases being interpreted as explicit and known people saved outside the Church, Vatican Council II
would wronly suggest that there are practical exceptions, to Jesus' teachings in John 3:5 ( the necessity of the baptism of water for salvation from Hell) and Mark 16:16( those who do not believe in Jesus,in the only Church he founded will be condemned).[/b]
-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 29, 2017
The New Evangelisation of the two popes is based on the Letter of the Holy Office, lay movements must observe. It is flawed.

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