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Post  columba Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:51 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024


The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document from the Vatican’s Justice and Peace department should please the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrators and similar movements around the world who have protested against the economic downturn.

“Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority,” was at times very specific, calling, for example, for taxation measures on financial transactions. “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said.

It condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations.

“If no solutions are found to the various forms of injustice, the negative effects that will follow on the social, political and economic level will be destined to create a climate of growing hostility and even violence, and ultimately undermine the very foundations of democratic institutions, even the ones considered most solid,” it said.

It called for the establishment of “a supranational authority” with worldwide scope and “universal jurisdiction” to guide economic policies and decisions.

Asked at a news conference if the document could become a manifesto for the movement of the “indignant ones”, who have criticised global economic policies, Cardinal Peter Turkson, head of the Vatican’s Justice and Peace department, said: “The people on Wall Street need to sit down and go through a process of discernment and see whether their role managing the finances of the world is actually serving the interests of humanity and the common good. “We are calling for all these bodies and organisations to sit down and do a little bit of re-thinking.”

Some comments from posters on a secular forum;

"All hail the New World Order. "

"Lets see,a one would religion(Chrislam),then a one world bank,then a one world government,whats next the building of the temple mount in Jerusalem."

"That pope is kooky. "

"Do you think it would be ok with the Pope if the bank was located in Tel Aviv?"

"The Pope is a dope."

"I reckon the end is neigh my friends. Good thing I've got a cellar full of jerky, combat dressings, ammo and moonshine. Bring it!"

My own thoughts;
A dangerous thing to call for a central world bank if one is aware of the doctrine of man's fallen nature and his susceptibility to greed and his own self-seeking interests.
Without this control being in the hands of those who profess/promote Catholic principles of justice based on the law of God (which wasn't even mentioned) it's just another exercise in wishful thinking at best, and at worst, something more sinister with a deliberate unholy intention.
Talk about setting the stage!
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I'm sispicious again.

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Post  MRyan Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:59 pm

columba wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

My own thoughts;
A dangerous thing to call for a central world bank if one is aware of the doctrine of man's fallen nature and his susceptibility to greed and his own self-seeking interests.
Without this control being in the hands of those who profess/promote Catholic principles of justice based on the law of God (which wasn't even mentioned) it's just another exercise in wishful thinking at best, and at worst, something more sinister with a deliberate unholy intention.
Talk about setting the stage!
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I'm sispicious again.
Columba, I'm with you on this one (hold the presses!). I read about this earlier today and could only let out a big sigh. Good intentions do not always translate to sound policy - be careful what you ask for.

The Vatican is being pretty naive.
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Post  simple Faith Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:30 pm

Columba, don't be too quick to accept the headline grapping media spin of a few edited and selected quotes from a 41 page document. Firstly remember when the press say the 'Vatican said'' they intend to give the false impression that 'the pope said'.
The document in question was the work of a 'Pontifical Council' and what the press failed to mention is at a news conference Oct. 24, the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, emphasized that the document was “not an expression of papal magisterium,” but instead was an “authoritative note of a Vatican agency,” the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. In that sense, he said, it would not be correct to report that “Pope Benedict says” what’s in the document, he said.

For a more balanced review of what the document contains, read the following link:
http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=856


Anyway I thought we already had a 'one-world bank' in the form of the' International Monetary Fund' (IMF), an organization of 187 countries and its related' World Bank'.
So don't rush out just yet to get yiour micro-chip implanted.
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Post  DeSelby Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:51 pm

Simple Faith,

While it's true that the media will report nearly anything said by almost anybody within in the Vatican as "the Vatican says...", here it might actually fit.

Anyway, Benedict XVI had already set the stage for this with "Caritas in Veritate."

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html

67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity. To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good, and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations.

I don't know which part of the UN Charter is being referred to here, but, from the charter:

http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter9.shtml

Article 55

With a view to the creation of conditions of stability and well-being which are necessary for peaceful and friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, the United Nations shall promote:

a. higher standards of living, full employment, and conditions of economic and social progress and development;
b. solutions of international economic, social, health, and related problems; and international cultural and educational cooperation; and
c. universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion.

The last bit sounds like a platitude from an Assisi Meeting.

Out of curiosity, when was the last time Quas Primas has been cited as something to work toward by anyone in the Vatican, or in an encyclical?
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Post  simple Faith Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:12 pm

Michael Voris also comments on this type of media reporting:
http://www.realcatholictv.com/daily/?today=2011-10-25
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