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Benedict XVI says communism 'no longer working' for Cuba
Benedict XVI says communism 'no longer working' for Cuba
Communism no longer works in Cuba, the Pope said yesterday en route to Mexico and the Caribbean island, and the Church was ready to help the regime there find new ways of moving forward without “trauma”.
Speaking on his plane flying to the two Latin American states, the Pope told reporters: “Today it is evident that Marxist ideology in the way it was conceived no longer corresponds to reality.”
Responding to a question about his visit to the island, Pope Benedict added: “In this way we can no longer respond and build a society. New models must be found with patience and in a constructive way.”
He offered the Church’s help in achieving a peaceful transition on the island, saying the process required patience and “much decisiveness”.
“We want to help in a spirit of dialogue to avoid traumas and to help move forward a society which is fraternal and just.” The word “trauma” refers to what may happen in Cuba, after the death of retired leader Fidel Castro (85), who handed over power to his brother Raul in 2008. – (Reuters)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/0324/1224313825679.html
Quote from Dimond Brothers:
I completely agree.
Communism no longer works in Cuba, the Pope said yesterday en route to Mexico and the Caribbean island, and the Church was ready to help the regime there find new ways of moving forward without “trauma”.
Speaking on his plane flying to the two Latin American states, the Pope told reporters: “Today it is evident that Marxist ideology in the way it was conceived no longer corresponds to reality.”
Responding to a question about his visit to the island, Pope Benedict added: “In this way we can no longer respond and build a society. New models must be found with patience and in a constructive way.”
He offered the Church’s help in achieving a peaceful transition on the island, saying the process required patience and “much decisiveness”.
“We want to help in a spirit of dialogue to avoid traumas and to help move forward a society which is fraternal and just.” The word “trauma” refers to what may happen in Cuba, after the death of retired leader Fidel Castro (85), who handed over power to his brother Raul in 2008. – (Reuters)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/0324/1224313825679.html
Quote from Dimond Brothers:
The implication is that Communism worked and was acceptable at one time, just not any longer. Benedict XVI: “Today it is evident that Marxist ideology in the way it was conceived no longer corresponds to reality.” So Marxism did correspond to reality (and was the proper choice) at one time? What an #!&*?/*!. This kind of statement is typical of the Vatican II @#$%*&$##. When they are not uttering bold, unambiguous heresies, they will often say something with subtly wicked implications. The majority of the people will ignore the implications, even though a careful reading of the words leads you to a certain conclusion. They will ignore it on the basis that “the pope” couldn’t possibly be implying that Marxism was acceptable at one time, even though that’s exactly what his words do.
I completely agree.
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Of course you agree with your masters, you'll believe anything they tell you.
What a pile of sede rubbish.
What a pile of sede rubbish.
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Re: Benedict XVI says communism 'no longer working' for Cuba
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[quote]Pope draws huge crowd in Havana, urges freedoms for Church
By STABROEK EDITOR
HAVANA, (Reuters) – 3/28/12
Pope Benedict, speaking from Cuba’s biggest stage, urged Cubans today to search for “authentic freedom” and pressed the communist government to let the Catholic Church teach religion in schools and universities.
The pope, 84, led an open-air Mass for a crowd estimated by the Vatican at some 300,000 people in Havana’s Revolution Square, the centerpiece of a trip that began with a blast at communism and will end after a visit with Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.
Crowds began gathering during the night to hear the leader of the world’s 1.2 billon Catholics speak in the sprawling plaza that Castro, now 85, used to fill with big crowds and fiery revolutionary rhetoric in hours-long speeches.
Surrounded by ten-story high images of Castro’s revolutionary comrades Ernesto “Che” Guevara and Camilo Cienfuegos, the pope read a sermon that continued one of the main themes of his trip – that Cuba should build a more open society, based on truth, justice and reconciliation.
“The truth is a desire of the human person, the search for which always supposes the exercise of authentic freedom,” he said.
In an apparent dig at Marxism, he also said some “wrongly interpret this search for the truth, leading them to irrationality and fanaticism; they close themselves in ‘their truth,’ and try to impose it on others.”
Benedict also made an apparent reference to Cuba’s tense relations with the United States, which imposed an economic embargo on the island 50 years ago.
“Cuba and the world need change, but this will occur only if each one is in a position to seek the truth and chooses the way of love, sowing reconciliation and fraternity,” he said.
The vast area was filled with people waving Cuban flags and wearing broad hats and holding umbrellas to shield them from the sun. As Benedict arrived in a popemobile, they wildly welcomed the successor of the much-beloved Pope John Paul, who made a historic, groundbreaking trip to Cuba in 1998 and preached from the same square.
Benedict, wearing purple vestments, read out a virtual shopping list of rights the Church still lacks in Cuba as President Raul Castro, Fidel’s younger brother, sat in the front row. Both of the Castro brothers were educated by Jesuits, the worldwide Catholic order.
While he acknowledged “with joy” the great improvements since John Paul’s visit, he added: “Nonetheless, this must continue forwards, and I wish to encourage the country’s government authorities to strengthen what has already been achieved and advance along this path.”
The faithful could be “at once a citizen and a believer”, the pope assured the government, adding that strengthening religious freedom consolidates social bonds. “This is why the Church seeks to give witness by her preaching and teaching, both in catechesis and in schools and universities,” he said.
At the end of the Mass, Raul Castro, wearing a traditional white guayabera shirt, was invited to the altar platform and the two men greeted each other as the crowd applauded.
Since his arrival in the eastern city of Santiago, the pontiff has spoken of Cuba’s need for reconciliation and a more open society, with the Church at its side as a buffer against “trauma” or social upheaval.
“We hope he brings peace, an end to wars, and an end to the U.S. embargo,” said Belkis Martin Rodriguez, 49, walking to Revolution Square dressed in jean shorts, with her mother and 8-year-old son.
Asked if she hoped for reconciliation between the communist government, dissidents and exiles in Miami, she said: “Let each remain in their own place. If people left for Miami, let them stay there and be happy. Let the Church stick to its own field, religion, and let the government handle the politics.”
In talks on Tuesday with Raul Castro, the pope urged a bigger role for the Church and asked that the government consider making Good Friday, the day Christians commemorate Christ’s death, a national holiday.
Fidel Castro reinstated Christmas as a holiday ahead of the landmark visit of John Paul that helped improve long-strained Church-state relations.
The Vatican said it also made several “humanitarian requests,” without giving details but possibly having to do with political prisoners or jailed American contractor Alan Gross, who is serving a 15-year sentence for illegally installing Internet networks on the island.
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[quote]
[quote]Pope draws huge crowd in Havana, urges freedoms for Church
By STABROEK EDITOR
HAVANA, (Reuters) – 3/28/12
Pope Benedict, speaking from Cuba’s biggest stage, urged Cubans today to search for “authentic freedom” and pressed the communist government to let the Catholic Church teach religion in schools and universities.
The pope, 84, led an open-air Mass for a crowd estimated by the Vatican at some 300,000 people in Havana’s Revolution Square, the centerpiece of a trip that began with a blast at communism and will end after a visit with Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.
Crowds began gathering during the night to hear the leader of the world’s 1.2 billon Catholics speak in the sprawling plaza that Castro, now 85, used to fill with big crowds and fiery revolutionary rhetoric in hours-long speeches.
Surrounded by ten-story high images of Castro’s revolutionary comrades Ernesto “Che” Guevara and Camilo Cienfuegos, the pope read a sermon that continued one of the main themes of his trip – that Cuba should build a more open society, based on truth, justice and reconciliation.
“The truth is a desire of the human person, the search for which always supposes the exercise of authentic freedom,” he said.
In an apparent dig at Marxism, he also said some “wrongly interpret this search for the truth, leading them to irrationality and fanaticism; they close themselves in ‘their truth,’ and try to impose it on others.”
Benedict also made an apparent reference to Cuba’s tense relations with the United States, which imposed an economic embargo on the island 50 years ago.
“Cuba and the world need change, but this will occur only if each one is in a position to seek the truth and chooses the way of love, sowing reconciliation and fraternity,” he said.
The vast area was filled with people waving Cuban flags and wearing broad hats and holding umbrellas to shield them from the sun. As Benedict arrived in a popemobile, they wildly welcomed the successor of the much-beloved Pope John Paul, who made a historic, groundbreaking trip to Cuba in 1998 and preached from the same square.
Benedict, wearing purple vestments, read out a virtual shopping list of rights the Church still lacks in Cuba as President Raul Castro, Fidel’s younger brother, sat in the front row. Both of the Castro brothers were educated by Jesuits, the worldwide Catholic order.
While he acknowledged “with joy” the great improvements since John Paul’s visit, he added: “Nonetheless, this must continue forwards, and I wish to encourage the country’s government authorities to strengthen what has already been achieved and advance along this path.”
The faithful could be “at once a citizen and a believer”, the pope assured the government, adding that strengthening religious freedom consolidates social bonds. “This is why the Church seeks to give witness by her preaching and teaching, both in catechesis and in schools and universities,” he said.
At the end of the Mass, Raul Castro, wearing a traditional white guayabera shirt, was invited to the altar platform and the two men greeted each other as the crowd applauded.
Since his arrival in the eastern city of Santiago, the pontiff has spoken of Cuba’s need for reconciliation and a more open society, with the Church at its side as a buffer against “trauma” or social upheaval.
“We hope he brings peace, an end to wars, and an end to the U.S. embargo,” said Belkis Martin Rodriguez, 49, walking to Revolution Square dressed in jean shorts, with her mother and 8-year-old son.
Asked if she hoped for reconciliation between the communist government, dissidents and exiles in Miami, she said: “Let each remain in their own place. If people left for Miami, let them stay there and be happy. Let the Church stick to its own field, religion, and let the government handle the politics.”
In talks on Tuesday with Raul Castro, the pope urged a bigger role for the Church and asked that the government consider making Good Friday, the day Christians commemorate Christ’s death, a national holiday.
Fidel Castro reinstated Christmas as a holiday ahead of the landmark visit of John Paul that helped improve long-strained Church-state relations.
The Vatican said it also made several “humanitarian requests,” without giving details but possibly having to do with political prisoners or jailed American contractor Alan Gross, who is serving a 15-year sentence for illegally installing Internet networks on the island.
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